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shushlik



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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: live performance Reply with quote

I am planning to perform live using all your products and it will be connected to Rax - standalone AU host, what I want to do is connect multiple midi keyboards and assign them to various instruments, that part is done , now I need to hit first note on the keyboard to start pattern 1 second note will start pattern 2 and so on, so i can switch patterns on the fly live, the problem is when i hit keyboard key its starts playing BUT when i release it its stops, I dont need to stop i need to continue to play and when I will hit second keyboard key it should play second pattern in sync right after previous pattern is finished (not right away) the same way as it was in mc-303 when i switch patterns, Please make this happen Mike cant wait for it, i will not be using any DAW so i cannot create any midi performances in advance only playing live real time using only patterns that i will create. thanks

please,please,please

forgot to mention that this should apply to ADM as well
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shushlik



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway this can be done soon for ABL and ADM? or i will have no choice and buy multiple 303 hardware clones , my last and not pleasant option Sad
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

technoBox kind of has the behavior you describe.. Its not unlikely this will be implemented in ABL2 and ADM, but we cannot make any promises.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know its hard to jam on iPhone, i was hoping to use midi pad or keyboards controllers
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plus there is no way to sync timing with multiple iphones running technoBox, so no live gig here for me Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, is there anyway you can implement this in the next version soon, so we can do live gigs with ABL and ADM? please, please please
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can of course also use some DAW between the MIDI inputs and Rax *only* for doing some MIDI tricks with some MIDI tweaking plugins (e.g. Jesusonic in Reaper; I'll post a link when I check it off my to-do list) -- no prefabricated sequences. A monophonic latch would half do the trick; some beat quantizing/delay for the other half. You could also use a data flow app like Pure data (that would perhaps be my preferred choice for doing just what you describe and nothing else, for free), Max/MSP, etc. Or insert something like Reaktor before the instruments plugs and build something in there. Etc. etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, for me its complicated, I wanted the simple the better
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Pure data is in fact quite simple. Too simple for many people, anyway. Investing a few hours in its learning curve may well prove to be a very good investment for setting up a live rig with some custom tricks to make life easy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anyway you can describe detailed procedure for this if you can?
thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conceptually, all you'd have to do is:
- listen to incoming notes (on a particular channel), don't pass any notes on to the output, but remember the pitch value of the last one.
- check the clock signal to see whether a beat has passed; whenever a beat passes, check if the last received note is different from the one currently playing; if so: send note off for current note, send note on for new note value.
(repeat untill stopped)

When I get around to playing with Pd I'll make a patch and post it here. It was already on my (loooong!) to-do list anyway.
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