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Resonator63



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: ABL Pro skins Reply with quote

Has anyone created ant different skins for ABL Pro?
I see there are some nice ones for ABL and ADM.
Just wondered if anyone has conjured anything up for ABL Pro.
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wibwub



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Private User Group, Knorrhane asked about the possibility of making an MC-202 inspired skin for ABL Pro.

I don't own ABL Pro yet so it wouldn't be of much use to me. But I've done a quick cut and paste partial mock up:



I have a number of questions:

1. Would anyone actually use it? Honestly?

2. WAVEFORM SELECTOR - Is the huge waveform selector knob essential? It seems to me a 5 position slider would be better.

3. TUNE KNOB - Do people use the main tuning knob for fine tuning or only to shift up or down an octave? If this knob had only 25 frames then each frame would represent a semitone.

4. KNOBS - Would having 128 frames instead of 64 give greater knob accuracy in use? (If you'll excuse the double entendre).

5. ANY OTHER COMMENTS (not on the mock up) - Do anyone have any other comments on the default layout of ABL Pro? Or VST UIs in general. Do you prefer "photorealistic" designs festooned with rivets and screws and grills and so on? Do you prefer light or dark colour schemes? What do you like in UIs and what do you hate?

6. Seriously, would you really use it?

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Knorrhane



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Yes! Reply with quote

Nice job!

I would use it. I have been looking for a MC-202 skin for ABL Pro.
This look will go well with it, and make it look a bit like a modded MC-202.
Would it be possible to have the keys look more like on the 202 with white text also?
Then there would also be room for text and more. I would prefer the combination of sliders and knobs as they are on the MC-202 for OSC, LFO, Filter, AMP etc. I don't know how much harder that would be to make, but it would look really great i think.

I personally prefer to have as realistic skins as possible, especially on clones of real instruments. I already use the nice 3D rendered TB-303 skin for ABL 2 as default.
It just gives it a nicer and more pro feel, and it's easier to look at and use when it looks like hardware.


I really appreciate your work and think this is great. Thank you for sharing your work, and making a nice looking skin. Smile


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wibwub



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Changing the keyboard and adding sliders would necessitate re-designing the layout and making substantial changes to the .skn file.

The reason I did the quick mock up was because I had a look at the graphics files and .skn file and thought that maybe I could give it a go if I kept the layout as it was (bar a couple of minor tweaks) and just replaced the graphics files. So maybe a different keyboard and sliders could be phase 2 of the project (if phase 1 happens!).

Even if it doesn't end up looking much like an MC-202 (it wasn't my intention to do a look-alike), at least it will be an alternative to the standard skin.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. It's probably best to just keep the keyboard sections design as it is for now, but change the colouring to how it is on the MC-202.
I think that this skin will look great and suit ABL Pro fine.
To tell you the truth, i don't really like the default skins on any of the instruments. I know that for legal reasons they can't look like the classic instruments they emulate, but some nicer and more pro looking default skins are needed i think. The current designs look dated and cheap.
I will be happy to try out your ABL Pro skin when possible.
Keep up the good work! Smile


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Resonator63



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks promising Very Happy
Looks like a nice clear layout.
It would be good to see a few alternative skins.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm nearly there - just the text/labelling and the nasty little drawings for the Attenuator section to do, which I'm really not looking forward to. A clean layout can turn to poo when you add the text.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a specific font which will work well at 5 pixels? Google hasn't helped in this area.

Is it just me or do you have to move the waveform selector a ridiculous amount to change waveform?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish i could help you more, wibwub.
Maybe the the default font used on Mac OS X 10.8.3 could work?
It looks good with small text.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've started a thread in the Private Users Group:

http://www.audiorealism.se/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1926



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